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Title: Transalp
Post by: Evilkneyeball on September 03, 2018, 07:23:13 pm
I've been offered a 1998 Honda XL600V Transalp with 35,000 Km on the clock by a mate of a mate, It's been stored a few years in his Mum's garage and he reckons it will run after a carb clean and a new battery.
I've not seen it yet, but the photos look OK, I'm thinking of doing it up over the winter and maybe using it as a second bike or something comfy when I just want a potter about the green & pleasant.

Has anybody had one?

He only after a grand for it and it's got some nice big ally panniers with it and some crash bars. I think there's a tear in the seat and a crack in the front mudguard, but apart from that he reckons it's ok.

But the wife is going to kill me when she finds out and as she's never in a good mood it's going to be a bit frosty round here on Wednesday night when I trailer it home: any suggestions?


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: Yoozy on September 03, 2018, 08:58:03 pm
Don’t tell her.


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: felix on September 03, 2018, 09:02:55 pm


It was only £200..... I Can sell it for bits for that....


😁


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: Aldo on September 03, 2018, 09:04:52 pm
Throw a tarp over it,,,,,,,,,,,,or keep it at yer mates gaff.   happy119


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: Tifa on September 03, 2018, 09:10:30 pm
What's his mum look like?
 sex011


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: Evilkneyeball on September 03, 2018, 11:43:37 pm
What's his mum look like?
 sex011


Here we go. Are you saying I should consider a move?  spok1z


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: Rico on September 04, 2018, 12:13:23 pm
get it done min.....

Mibbe worth a punt........only tho if ye can get the price doon as IMO a grands a bitty rich for a non running nae MOTd 20 year auld bike.

 But wi a wee bit TLC and get her running n MOTd and its worth another £500 quid minimum straight off.....folk like these things and theres a wee bit o a renaissance goin on wi auld original "adventure" bikes partly driven by the Africa Twin success


 Go see it and mak yer ain mind up  happy88


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: Tifa on September 04, 2018, 01:39:31 pm
What's his mum look like?
 sex011


Here we go. Are you saying I should consider a move?  spok1z

Hahahaaa...nope.
How on earth would I know if you should consider a move?
Just asked what his mum was like....just curious like....
Pictures please....colour ones preferred.
 


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: Evilkneyeball on September 04, 2018, 06:12:26 pm
What's his mum look like?
 sex011


Here we go. Are you saying I should consider a move?  spok1z

Hahahaaa...nope.
How on earth would I know if you should consider a move?
Just asked what his mum was like....just curious like....
Pictures please....colour ones preferred.
 

All I can tell you at this stage is she's 85 years old  spok1z


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: Evilkneyeball on September 04, 2018, 06:31:44 pm
Subject to it being as described I'm bringing it home tomorrow night.


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Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: whitey on September 04, 2018, 06:37:34 pm
she's in the right age group for  him then. the bike looks worth that money all day in the pics, as Rico says a bit of a fettle and at least another £500 on top again


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: FTM on September 04, 2018, 06:45:01 pm
Tyres are at least 10 years old so will likely need replacing. MOT history here https://www.check-mot.service.gov.uk/


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: Aka_Gilo on September 04, 2018, 06:54:25 pm
What's his mum look like?
 sex011


Here we go. Are you saying I should consider a move?  spok1z

Hahahaaa...nope.
How on earth would I know if you should consider a move?
Just asked what his mum was like....just curious like....
Pictures please....colour ones preferred.
 

All I can tell you at this stage is she's 85 years old  spok1z

Bang on for Keith then  big grin1

Must admit, since getting my Africa Twin, those old 80’s / 90’s big trailies give me a semi.


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: Tifa on September 04, 2018, 07:12:59 pm
Hahahaaaa....cheeky feckers!  smiley-laughing002.gif
AT looks brilliant value for money....worst case scenario, bit of fettling and move it on for +£££





Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: FTM on September 04, 2018, 07:35:03 pm
Just noticed the MOT checker shows it to be first registered 1st July 1971. A mistake obviously but tax and MoT free biking could be yours  smile1.


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: Yoozy on September 04, 2018, 08:21:29 pm
Saw it up and trackermibob it.


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: Aka_Gilo on September 04, 2018, 08:27:52 pm
Saw it up and trackermibob it.

Christ, the Manchester chainsaw massacre knows no bounds.


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: Tifa on September 04, 2018, 08:46:24 pm
hahahaa....yep, our nob's well into his Frankenbikes.. smiley-laughing002.gif


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: garry on September 04, 2018, 09:27:16 pm
Saw it up and trackermibob it.

i had one o those yonks ago, an was very tempted..  ideal donor..  brill lil engine ..


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: Yoozy on September 04, 2018, 09:44:50 pm
They look well when all the shites gone. Nice and neat engine.


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: Evilkneyeball on September 04, 2018, 11:42:49 pm
Lets hope it all goes smoothly tomorrow night.


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: wileecoyote on September 05, 2018, 12:50:51 am
I wouldnt walk away. Had an XR600 with that motah, brilliant as is the 650.  Do it and be happy. Hell of a good machine.  Best hopes


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: Evilkneyeball on September 05, 2018, 08:33:15 pm
Tyres are at least 10 years old so will likely need replacing. MOT history here https://www.check-mot.service.gov.uk/


Yes they do, the back one is cracked.

There's a few things and minor dings, for example the spoke nipples are probably too rusty to get them looking nice and the engine paint on one side is ready to start flaking off.
I'll do what I can myself after I've got it running & MOT'd, but after tidying it up a bit I might just run it as it is rather than restore it. It looks like an honest bike and probably won't need much to geritgooin.

It's heavier to move around than the Tuono. A lot heavier, I was surprised.



Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: FTM on September 06, 2018, 05:41:36 am
I know what you mean Evil, the Tuono is a big bike and looks really heavy but in reality it's light as a feather. I once had to push my Tuono and a Yamaha FZ600 about 10ft up a tiny little slope, the Tuono was easy but the FZ felt like it weighed twice as much (no the brakes weren't binding).


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: Evilkneyeball on September 06, 2018, 09:32:36 pm
Got back from Halfords with a new battery, I was going to drain the carb and the tank of the old fuel but didn't, whacked the battery on, turned the key and it started 2nd go.
Everything works! I'll tidy it up a bit this weekend and order a new pair of tyres: any suggestions?? don't want a knobbly tread that will vibrate.
Next stop Australia!


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: Evilkneyeball on September 06, 2018, 09:37:50 pm
Electrical question:
They didn't have the right battery in Halfords, so the terminals face the wrong way on the one I bought: the +ve is near the earth wire and the neg near the positive wire. I've managed to fit it and it's OK.

Query is this, would it matter if I connected it up the wrong way, ey1 or would it just run the same and charge the same?


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: Aldo on September 06, 2018, 09:45:49 pm
And you went to uni and have a degree.   scratching1

I've nae idea E,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,just take it tae the middle of naewhere and hook it up,,,,,,,,see whit Appens.   frown1


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: whitey on September 06, 2018, 10:16:30 pm
Mike, that question just made me laugh


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: Vinny on September 06, 2018, 10:38:00 pm
You could expect a number of issues - blown fuses - perhaps a diode fitted to protect circuit boards - maybe a blown circuit board - blown regulator

I don't know the bike but the circuits will be quite simple as it's an older bike

In short it won't work and you will need to fix a few problems as a result.

Best not to do it

Interestingly old UK bikes have a +ve earth the reverse of modern bikes - not sure when the change was made to -ve earth


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: Evilkneyeball on September 06, 2018, 11:21:56 pm
Yes to all the piss taking, and on top of that I know I'm a smartarse,etc., but I don't know everything outside my subject area and I certainly don't worry about asking stupid questions that might show me up.

All I wanted to know was what would happen if you connected a battery up the wrong way.


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: Aldo on September 07, 2018, 12:34:02 am
Google it ya fanny.   lookup1


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: wileecoyote on September 07, 2018, 02:34:16 am
Ha, hook it up wrong and watch all the "pretty fireworks"


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: garry on September 07, 2018, 05:56:10 am
Sometimes just sometimes I completely fuckin despair.


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: Yoozy on September 07, 2018, 06:29:19 am
Slomo and Evil are the same person aren’t they!


Slomokineyeball.


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: Rico on September 07, 2018, 09:23:46 am
Evil min..ah get ye, always best tae ask.........and knowin the Gadgie for so long ahm pretty impervious (almost) tae the dumb question  laugh13

DO NOT reverse the polarity as it will definitely screw things up.......think driving doon a one way road the wrong way....bad things will happen  happy88

Anyroads sounds like its a good wee purchase...enjoy happy88


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: Tifa on September 07, 2018, 10:24:28 am

All I wanted to know was what would happen if you connected a battery up the wrong way.


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Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: Aldo on September 07, 2018, 01:04:44 pm
 laugh13


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: wileecoyote on September 07, 2018, 01:14:45 pm
 laugh13  Good stuff


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: felix on September 07, 2018, 02:13:14 pm


 laugh13


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: whitey on September 07, 2018, 06:34:10 pm
just some times don't you wish you would have kept quite and said feck all.  devil24


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: Tifa on September 07, 2018, 06:55:14 pm
Ah...but then we'd have nobody to take the piss out of.
Where's the fun in that?  big grin1


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: whitey on September 07, 2018, 07:51:28 pm
he's gone quite, hope he hasn't tried it.  stop1


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: garry on September 07, 2018, 09:10:21 pm
S,pose it's like banging yer missis then just as yer hit vinager stroke yer wacky in the colemans. .   


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: Evilkneyeball on September 09, 2018, 09:05:23 pm
Shutup

Fixed the sticking front brakes today, put a working horn on it  and glued a locating peg on a sidepanel. It's in pretty good nick for a 20 yr old bike.
All it's short of is a new back tyre (but I'm getting a pair) and it should pass an MOT.
I'm waiting for quotes on Tyres from the place just up the road from me, I'm going to give them the whole bike because there's no centrestand or bobbins for my paddock stands.
Looking forward to having a potter round the Trough on it.


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: garry on September 09, 2018, 10:17:31 pm
Shutup  !!!


 fangs1z fangs1z fangs1z fangs1z fangs1z    sex09 sex09 sex09 sex09


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: Aldo on September 09, 2018, 10:25:24 pm
Shutup

Fixed the sticking front brakes today, put a working horn on it  and glued a locating peg on a sidepanel. It's in pretty good nick for a 20 yr old bike.
All it's short of is a new back tyre (but I'm getting a pair) and it should pass an MOT.
I'm waiting for quotes on Tyres from the place just up the road from me, I'm going to give them the whole bike because there's no centrestand or bobbins for my paddock stands.
Looking forward to having a potter round the Trough on it.

Hope yer enjoy it ya fud,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,you've more than earned it fir giving a larf.   happy119   happy88


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: garry on September 09, 2018, 10:31:05 pm
black ter black, red ter red an blew ter fuck...


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: Evilkneyeball on September 09, 2018, 10:45:20 pm
black ter black, red ter red an blew ter fuck...


You've lost me there Gazza


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: whitey on September 09, 2018, 10:51:23 pm
battery you fud black and red


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: Evilkneyeball on September 09, 2018, 11:05:12 pm
I thought it was an Amy Winehouse lyric


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: garry on September 09, 2018, 11:20:20 pm
I thought it was an Amy Winehouse lyric

 laugh13 laugh13 laugh13


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: Evilkneyeball on September 11, 2018, 11:48:02 pm
Don't you just hate it when you're using rattle cans to spray something and you're doing ok but it's not glossing up, so you've got to spray it on a bit thicker so it coalesces, and then whoops, it's too much and you have "curtains".
I'm doing the front mudguard and the clear laquer has gone Pete Tong, letting it dry overnight & hope I can cut it back with wet & dry tomoz  spok1z


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: Evilkneyeball on September 14, 2018, 12:01:19 am
Done the best I can with the Halfords rattle cans, TBH the spray paint & clearcoat wasn't too bad, it's my fault trying to get the paint to "gloss" up.

Put the mudguard & fork brace on tonight after sanding the fork legs down (flaky old stuff) and re-spraying with afore-mentioned Halfords clear coat.

Still waiting on the effing tyres, it's a weeK tomorrow since I asked for a price off the local Tyre Bay and I've been back in twice and dropped the wheels off etc.


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: Aldo on September 14, 2018, 01:19:14 am
Life's a bitch E.    happy119


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: Evilkneyeball on September 15, 2018, 05:06:20 pm
I'm getting Metzler Tourances, £223 fitted to loose wheels.
Spending this afternoon wire-brushing the spokes, they're in a terrible state.


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: Evilkneyeball on September 26, 2018, 02:35:20 pm
Saw it up and trackermibob it.

I'm leaving it as original, but I did like what this talented bastard has done with this one....

(https://i.postimg.cc/fLn551D7/SAM_001.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/f3CxR23k)


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: Aldo on September 26, 2018, 03:09:05 pm
I like the look of that E.   happy119   happy88


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: whitey on September 26, 2018, 08:59:26 pm
looks a bit like an old cz


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: MagnetMan on September 26, 2018, 09:03:26 pm
Mate of mine had one of those CZ175 trailies. Weighed a ton and had as much poke as a C90. I think he gave up biking after that - not surprised really if he thought that was representative of the amount of fun you could have with bikes.


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: Evilkneyeball on September 26, 2018, 11:14:23 pm
They used to call them C Zupps/
I had an Mz 250 Supa and a Jawa 350 they were both great bikes.


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: Aldo on September 26, 2018, 11:40:26 pm
looks a bit like an old cz

Did CZ do a V2 4t w.   ey1

Maybe it's jist me mucker,,,,,,,,,,,fuckin clueless a am when it comes to,,,,,,,,,,,,,,aye yon's a CV4F or a HU-VN-AE-A125E

All fookin Greek tae me but a do mind the CZ's and the MZ's that would populate ma local roads.

Anyhoo that wiz well back in the day and without a word of of lie, I'm so fukkin glad I've got a modern machine to go oot on.


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: FTM on September 27, 2018, 06:11:00 am
A bloke down my street used to race MZ's, I think it was the cheapest way to go racing at the time.


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: whitey on September 27, 2018, 02:24:06 pm
not sure to tell you the truth Ali, would need some research.


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: Evilkneyeball on October 07, 2018, 08:13:56 pm
On the Transalp I'd appreciate anybody's help with a problem:

The swing arm pivot bolt (and 1 of the linkage bolts) won't budge, I think the bolt is rusted to the bearing or something.
I got the nuts off easy enough and can rotate the bolts (though V.stiff).

I've tried putting the nut on and hitting it with a club hammer via a block of wood, and I also tried hitting the end of the bolt with the hammer via a socket extension.
They ring and won't budge at all.

There's no grease nipples on this one.

Any ideas?


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: Tifa on October 07, 2018, 10:11:11 pm
Impact driver on the bolt should do the trick.


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: Aldo on October 07, 2018, 11:06:41 pm
Get plenty wd or similar squirted on them.

Forget using the wood as a buffer, it'll absorb most of the impact force.

Get a bigger hammer and yer socket extension bar and give it some manley blows.


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: Tifa on October 08, 2018, 12:10:26 am

Get a bigger hammer and give it some manley blows.

This bloke will sort it.....

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....or fuck it... smiley-laughing002.gif


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: Aldo on October 08, 2018, 12:16:46 am
Evil, if yer get the bolt to budge, knock it back the opposite way and spray more wd on it.

Keep doing it either way rather than trying to bludgeon it straight oot.

Good luck with it.

If you can lay the bike on its side and support the area around the bolt head yer blows will have far more impact. 


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: Rico on October 08, 2018, 04:44:36 pm
Sounds very much like its seized inside the bearing inner steel bush.  Had same issue wi my SLR650, absolutely solid.   The bolt will spin in the mount but just wont budge sideways.

Brute force is just part of the answer.

The other part is time and a wee bitty patience.  Keep soaking it with penetrant over a few days ( diesel works very good for this sort of problem as thin and will weep easily intae the smallest gap).   It will eventually seep thru.

Then as Aldo says ditch the timber as its dampenin yer blows, up yer hammer weight and go for good single sharp and hard strikes,  as in properly followed through blows, nae namby pamby taps.  Mibbe hold yer punch wi mole grips tae help get a better contact and dunt.


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: Evilkneyeball on October 08, 2018, 06:26:56 pm
Thanks for your suggestions so far.
I've looked online and there are many similar tales of woe and covering a multitude of bikes.
The swing arm moves very freely, I am considering leaving it and just painting it in-situ.
I am deffo going to try and remove the other linkage bolt as that squeaks.


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: Evilkneyeball on October 18, 2018, 12:02:09 am
Anybody got any suggestions what silver paint I should use on the clutch cover and rocker box cover?
I've got some silver Hammerite in aerosol and paintbrush format but don't know how temp resistant it is.
Has anybody renovated their engine with a good silver Paint??


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: Evilkneyeball on October 28, 2018, 06:48:25 pm
(https://i.postimg.cc/9Xds8Hww/IMG-0749.jpg)] (https://postimg.cc/Rq0Ph8Rv)

Well I've done enough to stop the rot and put it on the road, booked an MOT for Weds 31st and if it passes I'll tax it from 1st Nov.
I was going to do a more thorough resto, but due to change in circumstances (Wife wants to move on now the Lad's gone to Uni), I just wanted a rolling bike with MOT rather than have boxes of bits.


As I know you all enjoy a laugh: Last owner had dropped the forks through the yokes by about 50mm, so the last job I did was to drop them back down to about 2mm above the triple clamp (for WyleeCoyotee).

Tightened it all up again and managed to crack the top yoke at the LH side pinchbolts. Bought another yoke off Ebay for £25. no bother I thought, easy swap....
Well Mr Honda has other ideas because the ignition switch is attached to the underside of the yoke with anti-tamper bolts.

About 8 drill bits and 4hrs later I managed to get the bastard ignition switch off after minor physical injuries to myself including a nose cut in 2 places where a drill bit shattered and flew up (was wearing safety specs) and drilling a hole in the top of my middle finger. That injury actually had me pacing up and down the outhouse yesterday afternoon.

Then today it fell over off the section of railway sleeper I had put under the frame rails, but amazingly there was no damage whatsoever other than to a mirror and I had new ones anyway!


I think I should branch out into instructional videos on YouTube. Instructional with regard to English expletives and 1st aid in the home.

Anyway all Ok now.


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: whitey on October 28, 2018, 07:04:05 pm
that post made me laugh Mike


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: garry on October 28, 2018, 07:57:17 pm
Your own reg Prescott tribute act mike..

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Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: Aldo on October 28, 2018, 08:15:49 pm
 10 out of 10 fir effort mucker.

I'm sure most of us have battle scars and those that don't are liars.   happy119


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: Evilkneyeball on October 28, 2018, 09:46:25 pm
Cheers Lads, it's actually a result if it passes the MOT and it all seems ok, so should do.
I've only been up the driveway on it and god the front brakes are feeble considering it's a double-disversion. I've been all over it with brake cleaner & fettled the calipers etc. (and, yes I pumped them back up). You'd literally be better off with a parachute.
I'll be after £30 worth of sintered summat.


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: Rico on October 29, 2018, 08:24:51 am
ahm sure yer MOT will go well min, sounds like yiv done awe the necessary work  happy88


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: Aka_Gilo on October 29, 2018, 10:10:03 pm
Think we’ve all had days like that in the lab Mike  smiley-laughing002.gif


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: Yoozy on October 30, 2018, 06:42:13 am
I might get a gander at this later mate  winking1


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: Nito on October 30, 2018, 07:48:56 pm
Probably sticking pistons in the calipers or maybe pads are glazed/contaminated. I take it you’ve cleaned the discs with brake cleaner and some say soapy detergent water to degrease.


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: Tifa on October 30, 2018, 08:25:55 pm
Think we’ve all had days like that in the lab Mike  smiley-laughing002.gif

Yup....hammer, chisel, angle grinder, oxy, crowbar....weapons of choice on those days...
Trailer can be useful too....when you need it in the canal


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: Evilkneyeball on November 02, 2018, 05:49:47 pm
It flew through it's MOT, thank god.

I'm going to change the brake fluid and see if that makes any difference.
I took it out on the road on the way back from the MOT, it's certainly in no rush to get anywhere but it's a nice plush ride even with the beefed up back spring added by the previous owner.
I'm going to tax it now and perhaps have a bit of a local bimble about on Sunday with a few spanners in the top box.


I bought some bar end weights off Ebay for a tenner, but I don't think they're going to fit. Shame because they are proper heavy ones off a CBR 600 because I didn't want ally ones.


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: felix on November 02, 2018, 07:31:33 pm


Excellent.....

Have fun  happy119


Title: Re: Transalp
Post by: MagnetMan on November 02, 2018, 08:32:16 pm
Nice one Mike. Glad it's passed it's MOT get out there and enjoy it,